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360° · Jun 13, 2007, 07:39 AM // 07:39

Hello everybody.
I decided to delete my Paragon in order to create a Ritualist or Warrior. I've had a Ritualist, which I deleted about a month of playing. I've had a warrior too, my first character which I deleted accidentally ^^'. Now I'd like to get your opinions on this thing. Should I make a Rt or a Warrior? I do have all the campaings. I will probably start to solo farm with my new character, so I'd like to know which one of them would be better for that purpose and for general PvEing too.

Cebe · Jun 13, 2007, 09:27 AM // 09:27

Ritualist.

They're very versatile and extremely fun. They have great support and great offense. They can create great spikes of damage and have nice options for energy management. Weapon Spells are awesome as are Item Spells. Pre-casting spells is awesome.

Ritualist > Warrior imo.

Keep AWAY from the wammo.

ZenRgy · Jun 13, 2007, 09:30 AM // 09:30

Warrior.

Ritualists don't get [skill]Bull's Charge[/skill]

In addition, do you prefer caster classes or martial classes? Warriors are a fun class, but don't play the W/Mo Healing Breeze tank crap, play a warrior.

360° · Jun 13, 2007, 11:41 AM // 11:41

I usually play as a martial class in PvP, if I'm not playing as a monk. In PvE it's always my monk, I don't actually have any martial characters in PvE. My warrior was about 11 months old until he got deleted, and I gotta admit it was fun to play with him. The Ritualist I had got deleted cause I didn't like the spirits they have, but my opinion on that has changed a lot.
But what about solo farming? Which one is better for that purpose?

Crazyvietguy · Jun 13, 2007, 12:09 PM // 12:09

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Originally Posted by 360°

But what about solo farming? Which one is better for that purpose?

Once again it depends on you. If your goal in farming is killing bosses and high end areas then i'd probably go with ritualist.

But if your bulk loot farming, warrior is probably better because of their high AL. Warriors also can kill bosses effectively.

Really these two classes are completely different. However, due to the ritualist's Spirit's Strength skill a ritualist (if monitored well) can play a martial attacker as well. SO, I would think ritualist would be the choice here, just because they is so versatile.

Chicken Rice Seller · Jun 13, 2007, 12:33 PM // 12:33

Easy to get mission group with rit ... Rit > War

360° · Jun 13, 2007, 12:39 PM // 12:39

Hmm-m, thanks for your help everyone. I'll make a Warrior now, but I have 2 PvP slots so I'll make my Rit later.

ArKaiN · Jun 13, 2007, 02:52 PM // 14:52

Pretty sure the opinion of people in the Ritualist threads is unbiased.
Also, the question is dumb. There's no "better class" unless you're comparing them to a mesmer.

360° · Jun 13, 2007, 06:19 PM // 18:19

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Originally Posted by ArKaiN

Pretty sure the opinion of people in the Ritualist threads is unbiased.
Also, the question is dumb. There's no "better class" unless you're comparing them to a mesmer.

Well I can pretty surely say that warriors are better solo farmers than paragon.

tsnorquist · Jun 13, 2007, 07:45 PM // 19:45

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Originally Posted by 360°

Well I can pretty surely say that warriors are better solo farmers than paragon.

In your case, a "paraGONE"... ka dink cha! Be here all week.

PS: Ritualist > Warriors 99% of the time, no bias at all... really.

ArKaiN · Jun 13, 2007, 10:00 PM // 22:00

"No bias at all" my arse. If you need pressure, any mediocre W build will outperform an Rt build. Yes, even with spirit strength and awesome 60 armor.
They're used for different things. Its like asking which is better: A car or an apple.

UnMonoLoco · Jun 14, 2007, 12:21 PM // 12:21

I beg to differ.
Yes, the warrior has clearly more advantages over a ritualist in a brawl. That is of course common knowledge as the warrior performs the task of his namesake.
Though a melee wielding Rt actualy works quite fine in PvE. (well except DoA, but of course everyone knows that.) 60 armor? dear sir, a Spirit Strength Rt uses Ghostforge insignias boosting him up to 70 armor since there always will be a vital weapon on the character. given the use of a shield and a rank of 9 in tactics the Rt would be able to climb to the meager sum of 108 in armor class through watch yourself. Enough for PvE. PvP on the other hand goes straight to our pure Warrior brethern.

Pick Me · Jun 14, 2007, 01:26 PM // 13:26

You've already made your decision, but I'll still say my piece.

Both can solo farm.

Both look good in certain types of armor.

Warrior dances are better IMO. But if you have the collectors edition, backup dancers are better than a warrior's dance.

I love ritualists over warriors, but it would seem that you like warriors "deleted my warrior by accident".

Warriors are more popular than Rits, many PUGs still don't know much about Ritualists, so they may be hesitant about taking them.

Overall, based on what you have said in your original post, Warrior would be the one for you.

360° · Jun 14, 2007, 01:42 PM // 13:42

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Originally Posted by Pick Me

I love ritualists over warriors, but it would seem that you like warriors "deleted my warrior by accident".

That accident part looks pretty confusing so I'll explain it.
When I play PvP and log out, I usually delete the character I was playing.
One morning when I was very sleepy, I came to play some PvE with my warrior. I logged out and because I was used to deleting characters when I stop PvPing, I deleted my warrior accidentally. That should clear up the thing a bit.

ArKaiN · Jun 14, 2007, 08:35 PM // 20:35

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Originally Posted by UnMonoLoco

I beg to differ.
Yes, the warrior has clearly more advantages over a ritualist in a brawl.
*snip*

Fixed that for you.
I'm not going to compare how much defense a warrior can stack up to how much a rit can stack up. It would be incredibly silly. If you need someone to pressure, you use a warrior, not someone who deals 3 damage on melee if a 30 second-recharge enchantment is removed. Period.

Marverick · Jun 15, 2007, 01:56 AM // 01:56

A Warrior is useless in PvE, don't bother with one. Inferior damage output to a Sin or Derv as melee, inferior tanking to an Elementalist.

Rits can find groups much easier than Warriors; they can fulfill practically any roll. A Warrior can't really do anything that well.
Plus there's so many idiot warriors out there that they give the class a terrible reputation. I, for one, don't let any PuG Warriors into my groups because they're more trouble than they're worth.

ArKaiN · Jun 15, 2007, 02:25 AM // 02:25

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Originally Posted by Marverick

A Warrior is useless in PvE, don't bother with one. Inferior damage output to a Sin or Derv as melee, inferior tanking to an Elementalist.

Rits can find groups much easier than Warriors; they can fulfill practically any roll. A Warrior can't really do anything that well.
Plus there's so many idiot warriors out there that they give the class a terrible reputation. I, for one, don't let any PuG Warriors into my groups because they're more trouble than they're worth.

Are you insane?
Finding groups easily means being one of these 3:
Tank
Nuker
Healer

Warriors tank better than any other class. PERIOD. NO ARGUMENT.

UnMonoLoco · Jun 15, 2007, 11:49 AM // 11:49

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Originally Posted by ArKaiN

Fixed that for you.
I'm not going to compare how much defense a warrior can stack up to how much a rit can stack up. It would be incredibly silly. If you need someone to pressure, you use a warrior, not someone who deals 3 damage on melee if a 30 second-recharge enchantment is removed. Period.

I wasn't trying to get into a silly argument like that. I know that a warrior can tank a 110% BETTER. I'm just saying that an Rt can actually achieve decent armor rating when going melee. I know enchantment stripping is the death of this gimmick build, but to be honest, I haven't experienced much of that running around in PvE areas like RoT.

ArKaiN · Jun 15, 2007, 03:01 PM // 15:01

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Originally Posted by UnMonoLoco

I wasn't trying to get into a silly argument like that. I know that a warrior can tank a 110% BETTER. I'm just saying that an Rt can actually achieve decent armor rating when going melee. I know enchantment stripping is the death of this gimmick build, but to be honest, I haven't experienced much of that running around in PvE areas like RoT.

As far as I know every single explorable in RoT has foes that remove enchantments.

ArKaiN · Jun 15, 2007, 03:11 PM // 15:11

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Originally Posted by UnMonoLoco

I wasn't trying to get into a silly argument like that. I know that a warrior can tank a 110% BETTER. I'm just saying that an Rt can actually achieve decent armor rating when going melee. I know enchantment stripping is the death of this gimmick build, but to be honest, I haven't experienced much of that running around in PvE areas like RoT.

As far as I know every single explorable in RoT has foes that remove enchantments.